Episode 37 – Making Space For Other People

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When should you give people some space? When is the right time to remove yourself from the situation? How can you try to build a deeper connection with someone else?

In this episode, Nathan and Aaron answer all these questions and more as they share their observations and experiences as therapists.

In This Episode


  • How to truly hear what other people are saying
  • How to move your own self (thoughts/opinions and feelings) out of the way
  • How to see and connect with someone else
  • How to become a better listener

How to truly hear what other people are saying

  • Practice active listening
  • Make sure to respond appropriately
  • Be nice!

How to move your own self (thoughts/opinions and feelings) out of the way

  • Try to ask open ended questions
  • Make space for other people, but remember to be present
  • Let go of preconceived ideas and judgements

How to see and connect with someone else

  • Realize your capacity for listening to others. Let them know when you’re truly too tired
  • Realize this is a shared experience – It can help you get to know yourself better.
  • Say things that show you’ve been listening to them over a long period of time

How to become a better listener

  • Practice grounding yourself wherever you are by feeling the textures and fabrics of the chair you’re sitting in or your weight on the ground, then notice what your body is feeling in the moment
  • Practice mindfulness by being with yourself, noticing and understanding your own emotions and physical body sensations
  • Accept yourself and your value so others can do the same for you

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Meet Nathan & Aaron

Nathan Hawkins and Aaron Potratz are both licensed therapists and clinical supervisors in the state of Oregon. They each own their own private group counseling practices and co-own a third group practice together. Nathan and Aaron have been in the field since 2004 and 2007, respectively, and have over 100,000 hours of therapy experience each. On their show, they discuss facing fears and common challenges from a therapist’s point of view, imparting wisdom and humanity to their viewers. Along the way, they hope to not only share their insights but bring some light-hearted entertainment to make the journey easier.

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