Have you (or someone you know) ever thought you “get it” only to discover you really don’t? Have you thought you should feel a certain way in a situation but you felt nothing? Do you randomly feel angry or sad?

In this episode, Nathan and Aaron answer all these questions and more as they share their observations and experiences as therapists.

In This Episode


  • What is “head knowledge”
  • How disconnection from the heart can happen
  • What it means to be connected/integrated with the heart
  • How to become “settled” inside yourself

What is “head knowledge”

  • Speaking predominantly about information, problems, or solutions but your heart and body have not “owned it”
  • Presenting as “unemotional” – you don’t feel emotions or you speak about emotions rather than from emotions
  • You’re often unaware of how you’re feeling or unable to access your feelings

How disconnection from the heart can happen

  • You were not raised in an environment where emotions were safe to have or share
  • Your emotions and experiences were not reflected back to you by an adult
  • The adults in your family were more focused on information/logic, problems, or solutions

What it means to be connected/integrated with the heart

  • You have two hemispheres of the brain that need to work together:
    • Right hemisphere: emotional, involves the senses, experiential
    • Left hemisphere: logical, language-based, organized
  • You also have two systems of thinking:
    • System 1: Intuitive, unconscious, gathering sensory information
    • System 2: Logical, conscious, intentional, based on System 1 information
  • Being integrated means having an understanding and awareness of your right-brain experiences as well as your left-brain thoughts and reasoning; “feeling it.”

How to become “settled” inside yourself

  • Practice grounding yourself wherever you are by feeling the textures and fabrics of the chair you’re sitting in or your weight on the ground, then notice what your body is feeling in the moment
  • Practice mindfulness by being with yourself, noticing and understanding your own emotions and physical body sensations
  • Accept yourself and your value so others can do the same for you

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Meet Nathan & Aaron

Nathan Hawkins and Aaron Potratz are both licensed therapists and clinical supervisors in the state of Oregon. They each own their own private group counseling practices and co-own a third group practice together. Nathan and Aaron have been in the field since 2004 and 2007, respectively, and have over 100,000 hours of therapy experience each. On their show, they discuss facing fears and common challenges from a therapist’s point of view, imparting wisdom and humanity to their viewers. Along the way, they hope to not only share their insights but bring some light-hearted entertainment to make the journey easier.

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