Episode 12-Interview with Randy Kinnison

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What are two important keys to successfully starting your own business? How can knowing yourself help you avoid pitfalls and stay focused? What is the best way to create a product to serve the market you’re wanting to reach?

In this episode, Nathan and Aaron interview guest Dr. Randy Kinnison, AKA “Doctor Peace“.

Dr. Randall Kinnison

In This Podcast


  • About our guest, Dr. Randy Kinnison
  • Randy’s keys to success
  • How he became a mediator, despite a 90% fail rate in the field
  • How he handles “Imposter Syndrome” (feeling like a “phony”)
  • How Randy stays focused with so many ideas and businesses he runs

About our guest, Randy Kinnison

Randy’s Keys To Success

  • Have a good work ethic and self-discipline
  • Keep your overhead expenses low when starting out
  • Later, when you find success, you can grow and upgrade
  • Find your niche and continue to niche down so you excel at your specialty
  • Randy’s is mindful about how he manages people: “Most people don’t quit their jobs, they quit their boss”

How Randy Became A Mediator

  • Randy was always passionate about peace, helping people, and collaborating with people in whatever job he worked
  • Randy has done Strengths Finders, Myers-Briggs, and many other assessments. He re-examines these every few months to stay grounded in who he is and what his talents are
  • Not only does Randy want to reach 3 million people, he has a plan for that but is also flexible about how to accomplish it

Dealing with “Imposter Syndrome”

  • Knowing his Strengths Finder personality (“Activator”) has helped him identify his gift of confidence and use it to his advantage
  • Being open to feedback to learn and grow has minimized his experience of “Imposter Syndrome”
  • Focusing on what the next step is, one step at a time, and trusting that “this is the path forward” has also helped
  • Randy emphasizes learning and leaning on others who have gone before you to avoid making some mistakes
  • Randy suggests you pivot where you need to and pick yourself up where you fall down
  • He also encourages you to not quit and keep going, even if you fall or fail

Staying Focused

  • Randy spends regular time stepping away to reflect on his life and career to make sure he’s on the path he wants to be on
  • He also does some in-depth analysis of each of his companies to determine which has the most impact in order to achieve his goal of reaching 3 million people
  • Although Randy has a goal, how he gets there is flexible and he stays open to what that will look like
  • For example, he initially wanted to write books but he has pivoted to making online courses a more effective way of achieving his goal
  • Collaboration with others has also accelerated his process and ability to achieve his goals
  • Listening to the people you’re serving helps to stay focused on what is going to be the most helpful in meeting their needs

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Nathan Hawkins and Aaron Potratz are both licensed therapists and clinical supervisors in the state of Oregon. They each own their own private group counseling practices and co-own a third group practice together. Nathan and Aaron have been in the field since 2004 and 2007, respectively, and have over 100,000 hours of therapy experience each. On their show, they discuss facing fears and common challenges from a therapist’s point of view, imparting wisdom and humanity to their viewers. Along the way, they hope to not only share their insights but bring some light-hearted entertainment to make the journey easier.

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